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    Investment exchange meeting on the third quarter of 2022 and recent operation of Southern Power Grid Energy Storage


    December 2, 2022 - OrbitFin Earnings Transcripts

     

      Start Time: 2022-11-30 06:30:00

      End Time: 2022-11-30 07:30:00

      Question: The Chairman of the Board of Directors is invited to discuss: market-oriented operation,Innovative marketing,Devoted to development,Fear investors,Breaking related transactions,Take independent market... Explain to our investors,thank you!

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! The company is committed to building a flagship listed company in the energy storage field,Adhere to market-oriented orientation,An expanded in-depth reform agenda,Strengthen compliance management,Increase scientific and technological innovation,Firmly grasp the opportunity of double carbon ,Accelerate the development of pumped storage and new type energy storage,Continue to be stronger, better and bigger,Constantly improve core competitiveness,Strive to improve business performance,Actively return to investors

      Question: What is the position of the company s energy storage business scale in the industry?

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! South Grid Energy Storage Company has built and put into operation 7 pumped storage power stations,Installed capacity: 10.28 million kilowatts,4 electrochemical energy storage power stations,Capacity 30000 kW,The total capacity is 10.31 million kilowatts. The company has approved a pumped storage project with a capacity of 4.8 million kilowatts,New energy storage projects under construction with a capacity of 375000 kilowatts,The company is in a leading position in the industry. Thank you for your attention!

      Question: Excuse me, Manager Li,When is the Guangdong electricity spot market expected to officially operate,When will the Southern Regional Power Market officially operate,thank you

      Answer: Hello!,Guangdong spot power market has started continuous settlement and trial operation in November 2021,Has not changed,There is no formal notice of when to officially operate

      Question: Since the successful reorganization,Share prices have been falling,Transaction volume is declining,Serious separation from the trading position of the company,The share price, as the chairman of the board of directors, makes certain obligations and rights for the development of the company

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! The share price and trading volume are affected by many factors. The Company has always performed its information disclosure obligations in strict accordance with relevant regulations,At present, the company s production and operation activities are normal,There are no major events that should be disclosed but not disclosed that may affect the share price

      Question: The recent trading volume has decreased significantly,Why do some investors abandon the energy storage of Southern Power Grid? Did the management think deeply? Can t just avoid,Take the initiative,Is there any countermeasure?

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! The company always pays close attention to stock price and investor return. The fluctuation of stock price is affected by many factors,At present, the company s production and operation activities are normal,There are no major events that should be disclosed but not disclosed that may affect the share price. The management of the Company will faithfully and diligently perform their duties as always,Strengthen business management,Strive to improve business performance,Keep improving the company fundamentals. Thank you for your attention

      Question: May I ask the chairman of the company,The company s new pumped storage project has a large investment,Long construction period,The earliest effect will be achieved by 2025,What is the profit growth point of the company in recent two or three years? Also, please explain the profit model and policy of the state on pumping, storage and energy storage

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! Stable asset structure,Good financial condition,Depreciation of power plants put into operation early,Gradual decrease of financial expenses,Contribute more profits and cash flow to the development of the company,The company plans to build and put into production a new energy storage capacity of 2 million kilowatts during the Fourteenth Five Year Plan period,The electrochemical energy storage project has been put into production in recent two or three years,The profit model and policy of the state on pumped storage,Please refer to the relevant provisions of FGJG [2021] No. 633. Thank you for your attention

      Question: As the first financing of the company,The financing plan has not been completed,As the chairman of the company, you have analyzed why institutions are unwilling to invest in energy storage of Southern Power Grid,Is the company s prospects bleak? Or does the organization not understand the company s vision of pumped storage?

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! The company raised no more than 9.3 billion yuan of supporting funds in this issuance of shares,The work of raising funds has been successfully completed,The raised funds exceeded 8 billion yuan. The subjects participating in subscription were relatively diversified,Industrial capital,Insurance funds,Both public offering and private placement funds are involved. The company seizes the opportunity of double carbon ,During the Fourteenth Five Year Plan period, pumped storage will be added and put into operation separately,New energy storage capacity of 6 million kilowatts and 2 million kilowatts,The current goal has been partially achieved,The next three years will continue to promote the realization of the above goals The Fourteenth Five Year Plan,The Tenth Five Year Plan,China Southern Power Grid plans to build 21 million kilowatts of pumped storage capacity,5 million kw new energy storage,At the same time, the construction of 15 million kilowatts of pumped storage and 5 million kilowatts of new energy storage put into operation during the 16th Five Year Plan will be started,The company has broad prospects for development

      Question: Please consult the leaders,Withdrawal of 6.392 billion yuan of revenue in the first three quarters,Peak shaving hydropower,What are the revenues of new energy storage,And respective gross profit margin

      Answer: Thank you for your attention. Please pay attention to the company s external announcement

      Question: Latest document of National Energy Administration,To promote energy storage to enter the spot electricity market,Please tell me when the pumped storage power station of Southern Power Grid can enter the spot market for trading

      Answer: Guangdong power spot market is in the stage of settlement and trial operation,According to current market rules,Pumped storage is not qualified to participate in the spot power market. We will pay close attention to the policy changes in the rules of the spot power market,Actively study the strategy of pumped storage power plants participating in the spot electricity market. Thank you for your attention

      Question: What are the differences between peak shaving hydropower stations and ordinary hydropower stations? How to reflect the value of participating in peak shaving? Why the average online price is lower than that of the same listed companies

      Answer: Hello!,Thank you for your question. Peak shaving hydropower mainly serves the peak shaving of power grid,frequency modulation,Its purpose is to ensure the security of power grid,Economic operation; The electricity price of peak shaving hydropower is the price approved by the government

      Question: Please answer the question that investors are most concerned about: Why has the stock price kept falling?

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! The fluctuation of stock price is affected by many factors,At present, the company s production and operation activities are normal,There are no major events that should be disclosed but not disclosed that may affect the stock price. Thank you for your attention

      Question: The fixed increase of the company has attracted the participation of upstream and downstream companies in the industry,Are there any plans for the layout of the whole industrial chain in the future?

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello!,Thank you for your question. The company 's current main business is to focus on the dual carbon goal,Carry out pumped storage,Peak shaving hydropower,Investment in new energy storage,build,Management and operation. If there is any change in the layout of the industrial chain in the future,Please follow the company 's announcement

      Question: New energy storage power stations built or to be built this year,When to receive benefits

      Answer: The new energy storage power station will produce benefits after completion. Thank you for your attention

      Question: Please consult the company s revenue of 6.392 billion in the first three quarters,Peak shaving hydropower,What are the revenues of new energy storage,And respective gross profit margin

      Answer: Thank you for your attention. Please pay attention to the company announcement

      Question: 1. Whether the inflow of hydropower for peak shaving in the four seasons is normal or more or less than that in previous years,How much power generation is expected in the fourth quarter 2. Installed capacity of new energy storage at the end of this year and next year

      Answer: Hello!,Please pay attention to the company s subsequent announcement regarding the peak shaving hydropower generation in the fourth quarter; The new energy storage capacity is expected to reach 111MW this year,2000 MW planned at the end of the 14th Five Year Plan,At present, it is being promoted according to this goal,Please follow the subsequent company announcement,Thank you for your question

      Question: What is the proportion of the operating turnover of independent energy storage power plants? What is the future plan

      Answer: Dear investors,The company plans to add 2 million yuan of new energy storage respectively during the 14th Five Year Plan , 15th Five Year Plan and 16th Five Year Plan ,3 million and 5 million kilowatts. The company has enough projects planned and reserved. Thank you for your attention

      Question: 1: The energy storage capacity of Southern Power Grid is planned to increase to 6 million kilowatts during the Fourteenth Five Year Plan period,At present, there are three projects under construction,When is the approved Huizhou Zhongdong planned to start construction? When is the planned production date? How does the company raise funds for so many large-scale construction projects? As a high-quality user of the bank,Is the bank loan interest rate obtained by the company preferential?

      Answer: Huizhou Zhongdong Project is progressing as planned,Please pay attention to the company announcement. The company s financial structure is stable,Stable source of funds,Enjoy the loan advantage of high-quality customers of the bank

      Question: What empowerment has China Southern Power Grid Corporation given to listed companies after restructuring?

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello!,Thank you for your question. As the controlling shareholder of the company, China Southern Power Grid Corporation,On the basis of maintaining the independence of the company,In the brand,corporate governance ,The company was strongly supported by financing and other aspects,Support the company to become stronger, better and bigger

      Question: Are our energy reserves exported to Southeast Asian countries

      Answer: Hello!,The company has no international business at present,Thank you for your question

      Question: Is there a situation of collaborative energy storage with thermal power units?

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! The new energy storage project constructed by our company is independent energy storage on the grid side,At present, there is no cooperative energy storage with thermal power units. Thank you!

      Question: 2: The new energy storage Fohai project is planned to be put into production next year,How much net profit is expected to bring to the company

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! Our company is building an independent energy storage project at the grid side in Nanhai, Foshan,This project is a demonstration project of Guangdong Province and China Southern Power Grid Corporation,The internal rate of return on capital can reach 5%

      Question: When is the fastest time for the pumped storage power generation project under construction to generate power?

      Answer: Hello!,Projects under construction are planned to be put into production in 2025 as soon as possible,However, it may be affected by geological conditions,Impact of factors such as resettlement progress,Risk of delay

      Question: Whether the inflow of hydropower for peak shaving in the fourth quarter is normal or more or less than that in previous years,How much power generation is expected in the fourth quarter

      Answer: Thank you for your attention. Please pay attention to the company s follow-up announcement

      Question: Media publicity is also an important means to maintain investor relations,Why do you seldom see the media s attention to the company,Does the management pay little attention to this?

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello!,Thank you very much for your question. The management of the company has always insisted on doing a good job of publicity objectively and impartially,The company and its affiliated units will also irregularly carry out open day activities,Enhance the understanding of investors and the public on the company. CCTV and other central and local media,Industry media 's influence on the company 's engineering construction,There are relevant reports on reform and development. The company has set up an official website and a WeChat official account of Energy Storage of China Southern Network ,You are welcome to pay attention

      Question: What is the current operation and maintenance rate of each savings project,Is there a big gap between different projects? What is the average operation and maintenance cost of the top 50% power plants in the national average level and advanced level?

      Answer: Original investment,Installed capacity,Influence of construction period and other factors,There are certain differences in the operation and maintenance rates of each power station. At present, the cost supervision and price verification of pumped storage power stations have not been completed,The average level and advanced level of the operation and maintenance rates of the national pumped storage power plants have not been announced by the competent authorities. Thank you for your attention

      Question: What are the considerations for the site selection of pumped storage projects,For example, the land price in Guangdong is higher than that in Yunnan,Is there any obstacle to construction in other places?

      Answer: Hello!,The site selection of the pumped storage project mainly considers the peak shaving demand of the project area,Scale of new energy development,Reservoir forming terrain and drop,At the same time, restrictions of restrictive factors such as ecological protection red line and comprehensive factors such as economy of construction cost should be considered

      Question: Is it time to completely divest the power generation business?

      Answer: Hello!,At present, the company s business includes peak shaving hydropower,Pumped storage and new energy storage,In 2021, the business of gas peak shaving power plant has been separated,Thank you for your attention

      Question: What are the pumped storage power generation projects under construction? When will the fastest project generate electricity?

      Answer: Hello!,At present, Nanning pumped storage project has been commenced as the main project,Zhaoqing Pumped Storage and Meizhou Pumped Storage Phase II Three Projects,The fastest plan is to put into production by the end of 2025,Thank you for your attention

      Question: I would like to ask Director Yang Lu about a policy bias,We know that document 633,The distribution proportion of electricity price is 20% owned by the company,80% will be turned over to the head office for the capacity price in the next few years,Embrace the market,It is very likely that the revenue of electricity price will be much higher than the capacity price,Will there be any opportunity to adjust the proportion of 20% to 80% of electricity price? If it is found that the electricity price benefit is better,Whether the company will seek to adjust the distribution proportion,Or even completely eliminate the capacity electricity price,What about electricity price? thank you

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! Provisions of Document No. 633, Encourage pumped storage power plants to participate in auxiliary service market or auxiliary service compensation mechanism,Corresponding income formed in the last regulatory cycle,And implementation of pumping tariff,Gains from on grid electricity price,20% shared by pumped storage power station,80% will be deducted when the power plant capacity price is verified in the next supervision cycle,The losses are borne by pumped storage power plants. At present, the southern regional power market is in simulated trial operation,Guangdong power spot market is in the stage of settlement and trial operation,According to current market rules,Pumped storage is not qualified to participate in the spot power market. We will pay close attention to the policy changes in the rules of the spot power market,Actively study the strategy of pumped storage power plants participating in the spot electricity market meanwhile,Document No. 633 also clearly proposed, Establish an adjustment mechanism to meet the needs of power market construction and industrial development, and adapt to the actual needs of power market construction and industrial development,Reduce the proportion of the design capacity of the power plant unit covered by the government approved capacity tariff in due time or according to the active requirements of the pumped storage power station,To promote the independent use of the remaining unit capacity of power stations to participate in the power market,Gradually realize the cost recovery of the power station mainly by participating in the market,Earnings,Promote the healthy and orderly development of pumped storage power plants. We understand,With the continuous development and maturity of the power market,Government Pricing Rules for Pumped Storage Power Plants,Revenue sharing mechanism including 20% to 80% of electricity price revenue,It may be adjusted accordingly. Selection of capacity price and electricity price,Comprehensive evaluation and determination shall be carried out according to specific policies

      Question: Hello, Chairman Liu,What is the position of energy storage in the Southern Power Grid system? Is energy storage of Southern Power Grid the only platform for energy storage investment and construction of Southern Power Grid?

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! Southern Power Grid Energy Storage Company is a professional company in the energy storage field of Southern Power Grid Company,It is the only subject of pumped storage and grid side independent energy storage investment and construction of China Southern Power Grid Corporation

      Question: Will the future business scope cover Hainan or more places in the south?

      Answer: Hello!,At present, the company s pumped storage business covers five provinces in the Southern Power Grid region

      Question: Is there any concern about seawater energy storage (coastal energy storage)?

      Answer: Hello!,Whether to use seawater for energy storage depends on the demand and geographical characteristics of the power station location,Confirm in planning,Seawater energy storage technology company has been tracking research

      Question: Why is pumped storage not included in the scope of spot electricity trading?

      Answer: Guangdong power spot market is in the stage of settlement and trial operation,According to current market rules,Pumped storage is not qualified to participate in the spot power market. We will pay close attention to the policy changes in the rules of the spot power market,Actively study the strategy of pumped storage power plants participating in the spot electricity market. Thank you for your attention

      Question: I would like to ask Chairman Liu Guogang,Energy storage of Southern Power Grid is an important subsidiary of Southern Power Grid,What support will the head office give after listing? The head office will support the energy storage of Southern Power Grid to become stronger and stronger,Is the market value growing,Will it take a market value of 100 billion or more as its development goal? What we are worried about is,Afraid that China Southern Power Grid just regards energy storage of China Southern Power Grid as a financing platform,Use it when financing is needed,Don t care if you don t need it,Will this happen? From the perspective of China Southern Power Grid Corporation,What is its positioning? thank you.

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! China Southern Power Grid Corporation deeply implemented the Work Plan for Improving the Quality of Listed Companies Held by Central Enterprises and relevant policy requirements,Vigorously promote the improvement of the quality of holding listed companies,Support the company to become stronger, better and bigger,Build a flagship listed company in the energy storage field The company will insist on strengthening the foundation of value creation,Continuously improve operation,Optimizing the fundamentals,Improve the internal value of the company; To promote the realization of market value,Pay attention to market feedback,Deliver company value,Actively safeguard shareholders rights and interests,Form a virtuous circle of high-quality development

      Question: Besides, I d like to ask Secretary Dong,At present, major securities companies and institutions in the market have a great prejudice against pumped storage, a traditional energy storage method with a long construction period,Everyone is chasing chemical energy storage,As a result, all major institutions are basically not very interested in our company (we can see from the previous fixed increase,Few securities companies and public funds),Few people know that pumped energy storage is the largest energy storage in the country,Is the most important force,How can we better promote the company s real value to the market? Will more securities companies and institutions be invited to investigate,Then organize more people s roadshows,So as to eliminate prejudice? thank you

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello!,Thank you for your questions and suggestions. Pumped storage power station is the main regulating power supply of the power system,The Opinions of the National Development and Reform Commission on Further Improving the Price Formation Mechanism of Pumped Storage Energy pointed out that,For a period to come,Accelerate the development of pumped storage power stations,It is to improve the flexibility of power system,Important ways of economy and safety,It is an urgent requirement to build a new power system,Pumped storage has broad prospects for development The subjects participating in the subscription of the Company s non-public offering are relatively diversified,Industrial capital,fund,Insurance funds are all involved The Company attaches great importance to investor relationship management,In the future, it will further actively communicate with investors and various subjects of the capital market,Constantly enhance the understanding and value recognition of the company by all market entities

      Question: In view of the long construction period of pumping and storage,Is there more than 4-hour energy storage in the direction of electrochemical energy storage in Southern Power Grid?

      Answer: According to the main application scenarios of measuring independent energy storage in the current power grid,At present, the company mainly arranges 2-hour electrochemical energy storage power station project,The electrochemical energy storage power station project with a duration of 4 hours or more has not been arranged yet. Thank you for your attention

      Question: Will there be a large dividend this year?

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello. The company s dividend policy has been clearly stipulated in the articles of association,Please pay attention to the company s subsequent announcement for the dividend arrangement in the future

      Question: Two questions about Manager Li s business,First, we know that,In addition to the capacity electricity price, the means of making profits for pumped storage power stations,And electricity price,However, the electricity price needs to enter the market to have a great qualitative change,I would like to ask the general manager when our electricity price can really enter the market,Can we go in after the Southern Regional Power Market officially operates? Thank you. Second, I read the research paper before,It said that 80% of our electricity price should be paid to the head office every three years,Use can be allocated within three years,Increased flexibility of the company,Is that so? thank you

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! one,Provisions of Document No. 633, Encourage pumped storage power plants to participate in auxiliary service market or auxiliary service compensation mechanism,Corresponding income formed in the last regulatory cycle,And implementation of pumping tariff,Gains from on grid electricity price,20% shared by pumped storage power station,80% will be deducted when the power plant capacity price is verified in the next supervision cycle,The losses are borne by pumped storage power plants. At present, the southern regional power market is in simulated trial operation,Guangdong power spot market is in the stage of settlement and trial operation,According to current market rules,Pumped storage is not qualified to participate in the spot electricity market two,Provisions of Document No. 633, 80% will be deducted when the power plant capacity price is verified in the next regulatory cycle,The losses incurred shall be borne by the pumped storage power station.

      Question: two,Are the official plans and policies of the state on the capacitor price and electricity price published? What is the difference between the new formal plan and the trial operation plan and its impact on the company?

      Answer: The results of national pumped storage pricing have not been released yet,The company pays close attention to the progress of price evaluation. If there is any definite information,It will be announced to the public in a timely manner,Thank you for your attention

      Question: I would like to ask the chairman a rather sharp question,Do you usually pay attention to the company s stock price? Do you know that we have dropped 25% in the past year? From 20 to 15. At the same time,The energy storage industry is hot in the market,Nanwang Technology, the sister company of epc, has doubled by six times,What do you think of this problem, Chairman? Why is this? Please do not answer with the official statement that the stock price is affected by the market,The energy storage in the whole market is rising, but we are falling. It is certainly not a market problem. I also sincerely ask questions,Can our Xiaosan of Nanchu wait for the same happy spring as the technology investors of Nanwang? thank you

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! The company always pays close attention to stock price and investor return. The fluctuation of stock price is affected by many factors,At present, the company s production and operation activities are normal,There are no major events that should be disclosed but have not been disclosed that may affect the share price. The company will make every effort to strengthen the operation and management,Improve business performance,Promoting reform and development,Strive to improve the company s fundamentals,Actively create value for the majority of shareholders

      Question: Then ask Secretary Zhong about the stock price,Have you noticed that our company s stock is actually a dealer stock? It has been since Wenshan Power,There have always been some forces who have resorted to the advantage of chips,Control share price,More and more market funds,Like hot money,The organization is unwilling to come back to our place,What measures will the company take in this situation? Keep the company away from stock trading,It is completely fair and just that the market decides the price,I think this is the most correct thing,What do you think? Will the company take relevant actions,thank you

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello. Thank you for your concern and concern for the company

      Question: The share price has been lying flat,Is the performance bad

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello! The stock price is affected by many factors,At present, the company s production and operation activities are normal. The first three quarters of this year,The company realized an operating income of 6.392 billion yuan,5.66% YoY (adjusted); Net profit attributable to shareholders of the listed company is 1.318 billion yuan,A year-on-year (adjusted) growth of 33.17% The company disclosed its operating results in strict accordance with regulations. More recent performance details,Welcome to view the Third Quarter Report of China Southern Power Grid Energy Storage Co., Ltd. in 2022 disclosed on the website of Shanghai Stock Exchange

      Question: Hello,Please ask Chief Accountant Tang,Have the cost supervision and review results of pumped storage power stations issued by the National Development and Reform Commission? Do you know how much capacity charge will be paid by several power stations with energy storage in Southern Power Grid next year? If the price has not been checked,Can you estimate the capacity charge that a standard 1.2 million kilowatt pumped storage power station can receive? How much can I get,600 million? 800 million? Or 1 billion? No need to be particularly precise,Just a rough number,thank you

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello. As of November 29,The results of the cost supervision and review of pumped storage power stations by the National Development and Reform Commission have not yet been released,The pumped storage power station of the southern grid has not yet received the pricing result of the capacity electricity charge in 2023 According to document No. 633,Capacity electricity price of pumped storage power stations and actual investment scale of each power station,Allowable internal rate of return of capital,Production life,Relevant parameters such as financing interest rate level,According to the 40 year operation period,The production, operation and maintenance cost of the old power plant is based on the national average level,The newly put into operation power plants shall be verified according to the average level of the top 50% power plants,It is impossible to reasonably estimate the capacity electricity price based solely on the installed capacity. Thank you for your attention!

      Question: 1. Does Southern Power Grid Energy Storage have plans for dividend and stock distribution in the near future? 2 Under the constant capital increase and capacity expansion, whether the vital interests of the majority of shareholders are taken into account? Capital increase of nearly 8 billion,But the losses reached more than 100 billion,How to explain? 3 Has China Southern Power Grid changed its previous investment commitment of 200 billion yuan (within 10 years) for peak regulation and frequency regulation? 4 What are the main work plans and annual benefits of energy storage in the next three years?

      Answer: Dear Investors,Hello. The company attaches great importance to investor returns,The profit distribution policy has been clearly stipulated in the Articles of Association,Please pay attention to the company"s subsequent announcement for specific dividend arrangements in the future Performance is the basis for steadily improving shareholder returns,The company recently launched a major asset restructuring supporting fund-raising,To seize the opportunity of double carbon ,Accelerate the development of pumped storage and new energy storage business,Make it stronger, better and bigger,It is conducive to enhancing the interests of the majority of shareholders During the Fourteenth Five Year Plan period, the Company will add pumped storage energy,New energy storage capacity of 6 million kilowatts and 2 million kilowatts,The current goal has been partially achieved,The next three years will continue to promote the realization of the above goals 21 million kilowatts of pumped storage power will be put into operation during the 14th to 15th Five Year Plan period of the Southern Power Grid,And start construction of a number of projects to be put into production during the 16th Five Year Plan period,The total investment is about 200 billion yuan. This planning goal is the direction of the company"s continued efforts in the future

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